Advice on getting the motor out quick & dirty

[pretzil]

I've done it both on and off the car, was good because the one off the car was the rooted gearbox and we got to practice on it.

 

[BCX]

As said previously, try a 3/8 drive socket and ratchet.

I can't say I've done a Legnum auto box, but most automatics are similar. (I've done a few Magna boxes).

Just make sure you're dead on the head of the bolt, cos the head is shallow it has potential to slip and round. Then you're going to have a bad day.

 

[Kaldek]

Got it off this morning folks, thanks for your advice. Here is what I did:

• Lower the motor onto a sturdy wood plank to secure it
• Turn motor over until bolt is in the inspection hole
• Place blocks of wood under the crankshaft breaker bar to lock the crank in position
• Use angle adjustable breaker bar and short 17mm socket to break the torque converter plate bolts
• Repeat process for remaining bolts

 

[Kaldek]

Problem now is the motor still jams up when I rotate it. Cam timing is good, but the motor jams. If I back it off a bit anti-clockwise then go again often it will clear the jam.

The resistance I'm feeling does not feel like normal cam lobe resistance. In fact, I don't think I can feel any cam lobe resistance, just the binding sensation.

O' great Legnum motor gods @6A13TT TYPE S and @trotty and @TME_Steve what say you?

 

[Size1]

Aren't you rebuilding this motor anyway. This is where the fun starts. Time to disassemble.

 

[Kaldek]

Aren't you rebuilding this motor anyway. This is where the fun starts. Time to disassemble.

That is true. Mainly curious I suppose.

 

[TME_Steve]

Try it with the plugs out first but probably fecked

 

[6A13TT TYPE S]

You can guess what the problem is until your blue in the face. Just start pulling it apart and the problem will reveal itself eventually. But as steve said try it with the plugs out so you know your not fighting compression and it may become a bit more obvious whats causing the tight spot.

 

[Kaldek]

Removed a bunch of shit from the intake valves. Engine no longer jams up but has a small amount of binding as I rotate it.

 

[Kaldek]

Will be fun pulling this thing down. Bet I find a bunch of grass and shit in one or more cylinders.

@RicKii`` was the airbox busted up when you got it? Looks like the guy crashed and the engine was running and sucked in a bunch of crap. Can't see any damage to the turbo blades though.

 

[jungle]

Random question is the first motor you've pulled apart ?

Secondly where did the car come from looks like it's been underwater. Unless the car's been running without air cleaner it's incredibly unlikely that shits got through the mesh filter and then Maf.

If everything is still sealed and your opening for the first time then it's definitely been underwater and/or been driven through a massive dust something a rather without an air filter .

Thirdly theyre the intake valves you will not get carbon buildup on the rear face because all is going in there is air and fuel.

 

[Dice]

Hah had a good laugh at your tour of the engine.

 

[Kaldek]

Yeah first motor I've ever pulled down. First time for everything!

There was no water in the oil. The interior of the car has no sign of water damage. There's no sign of this stuff in the turbos either.

 

[RicKii``]

nar airbox was fine and maf was fine. the air filter was clean too.
thats why my thought is the guy had started the car with the cooler pipe dug in the dirt as the inside of the pipe to the intake is dusty

 

[Kaldek]

That would make sense. Might explain the motor binding too. Be interesting to tear it down.

 

[Kaldek]

nar airbox was fine and maf was fine. the air filter was clean too.
thats why my thought is the guy had started the car with the cooler pipe dug in the dirt as the inside of the pipe to the intake is dusty

Ah so it was running, crashed and ripped off the outlet from the intercooler. The motor probably then sucked up the stuff it dug into.

 

[eddyvr4]

forgive my ignorance, but just to be sure, once the motor is dropped out the bottom can the car still be wheeled around on its wheels? steering and hubs are still on so im hoping yes?

 

[6A13TT TYPE S]

You have to collapse the hubs to get the front axles out to drop the motor so you have to reassemble the hubs. And if you have removed the axles you need to put some allthread with a nut and washer at each end through the hub to hold the wheel bearing together if you plan to roll it around.

 

[eddyvr4]

ahh ok.. Thanks Adam!