Stock Wheel Sizes and Offsets

[Hotwire]

Wheel Sizes and Offsets - Stock & Aftermarket

I know this is available at CVR4 (and shamelessly taken from there) but thought it would be handy as a sticky here for People who don't venture outside OzVR4.

Stud Pattern: 5x114.3

Stock wheels are:
Pre-facelift: 16"x6" Offset 46mm - stock tyre 205/55/16
Facelift: 16"x6.5" Offset 38mm - stock tyre 225/50/16
This means that the facelift wheels actually have 2mm extra clearance on the inside and stick out an extra 14mm.

Stock Evo Wheels are:
EVO 6 17x7.5" Offset 38mm Weight 9.5kg Made by OZ
EVO 7 17"x8" Offset 38mm Weight 10.1kg Made by Enkei
EVO 8 17"x8" Offset 38mm Weight 9.3kg Made by Enkei
EVO 9 17"x8" Offset 38mm Weight 9.1kg Made by Enkei
Best tyres for EVO wheels are 235/45/17
OR if you want a really low car and don't want rubbing problems, go 225/45/17

Aftermarket Wheel fitments that have been tried/tested
7.5" +32mm
7.5" +35mm
7.5" +38mm
8" +35mm (rear Lip MAY require rolling)
17x9.5" +35mm (17's only with guard rolling required)

As far as tyres go:
For 17x7 = 215/45/17 or 215/50/17
For 17x7.5" = 225/45/17 is best
For 18" = 225/40/18 or 235/45/18 are the two best options,
however 235's will require very good guard rolling .


Thanks to bradc & Kenneth for the info, hope you guys dont mind pinching some of CVR4

Also to add, I would like to update the register of some of the common size/offsets used on Legnums/Galants are without hassle. Please add more if you can

 

[bradc]

anything 7.5" 32-40 should work just fine
8" really does need to be in the 35-40mm range

Perhaps you aussie guys could help everyone out and measure the weight of the stock 16x6 and 16x6.5" wheels without tyres

 

[Guest]

Anyone know what the evo MR BBS wheels weigh?

 

[SiliconAngel]

Perhaps you aussie guys could help everyone out and measure the weight of the stock 16x6 and 16x6.5" wheels without tyres

Why do you want to know that, Brad?

 

[bradc]

because I must know everything, and it is one thing I don't know

 

[SiliconAngel]

Maybe eventually when I get some new rims I'll ask the tyre place to rip a tyre off so we can weigh the rim. That'll be a fair weigh off though, so don't hold your breath

 

[bratwurst_boy]

would 17x9 +18 offset rims fit on a facelift??? i really don't get the whole offset to wheel width ratio stuff.

 

[bradc]

they would stick out about 20mm too far

 

[Guest]

Great idea for a thread mate. Could we edit in tyre sizes as well into the original post? In my experience when it comes to scrubbing tyre size dictates just as much as wheel size and offset.

 

[Hotwire]

^ Good point -
for 8" I know a 225 will work best, so guessing with a 7.5" rim, 215 or 225 would work. for the 9.5" no idea!

Anyone else have input? (looks bradc's way)

 

[bradc]

the stock sizes are 205/55/16 and 225/50/16

Best for EVO wheels are 235/45/17 or if you want a really low car and don't want rubbing problems, go 225/45/17.

If you have a 17x7.5" wheel 225/45/17 is best

17x7 = 215/45/17 or 215/50/17

With 18", 225/40/18 or 235/45/18 are the two best options, 235's will require very good guard rolling however.

 

[Hotwire]

First post updated, cheers brad.

Also updated title to reflect Stock & Aftermarket as this thread has evolved - EDIT: hrmmm... didn't change title of main thread - Can a mod please do this?

 

[SLY-031]

I'll be trying to run 245/45R18's on my new wheels whenever I get around to it, failing that, 235/40R18's. This is on 9's in a +38, may run a 10mm spacer on the rear.

 

[bradc]

245/45/18, forget it.

Go for 245/35/18, it is only 3mm different in rolling radius to stock

 

[SLY-031]

Sorry, my inability to type there, was supposed to be 245/40R18 or 235/40R18.

I have a single 235/40R18 fitted up to a wheel, will trial fit and take pics tomorrow if I get a chance.

 

[Guest]

is the stud pattern 5x114.3???

 

[Hotwire]

Yup - good point, first post updated

 

[Guest]

ok kewl thanx, i just saw the 1st post and was sure i didn't see it there before hand, lol

 

[Nick]

The main thing to be aware of here is the way the suspension actually works on the VR4. The shape of the control arm is what makes it difficult to fit larger and wider rims.

See the pic below.

What happens is the larger the size in wheel, the less clearance the rim will have due the bending shape of the control arm. The control arm is shaped like a banana. So if you were using a 16" rim with 50 series tyre then you would be right in the centre of the "banana". Which would mean the most clearance possible. Should you up the size of the wheel, you end up getting closer to the top of the "banana" and thus reducing the amount of clearance you have available. Should you then decide to run a fat tyre, you will have issues.

DARKVR4 has 19" rims on his car without any rubbing. That being said, his car has not been lowered (yet) and has no issues. When he lowers it, I would imagine he will get some rubbing.

Thought this might help those who dont understand "why" we cant run massive wheel and tyre combos. Very frustrating for those of who think 18" were cool in 1999! 19" and up is the only size acceptable these days!

here are some pics of DARKVR4's wheels.

 

[Guest]

lowering wont affect "banana" arm clearance,
but it will move the the wheels closer to the suspension,

we have had a couple of guys here in nz have the tyre rub the shock on a lowered car

also moves the tyre closer to the guards and liners, so watch out for rubbing on these aswell