Martin's New Legnum VR4 - Adelaide

uzz320

Leaving Skid Marks
Location
SA
First Name
Martin
Drive
99 Legnum
Hi everyone,

My name is Martin, and I have just bought a Legnum - my first ever non-Toyota.

I wasn't looking for a new car at all, infact I was quite content with my assortment of Toyotas (Had 4 at the time), but when I test drove a VR4 for a friend I fell in love (with the Legnum, not the friend - or the seller). That was some six months ago, and at first I tried to tell myself that I still loved my ageing ST165 Celica GT-FOUR (1989) and UZZ32 Soarer (1992). The ST165 had AWD and a turbo, so it was just as good as a Legnum for grip and performance surely. The UZZ32 had a very advaced, complicated and rare Active Hydro-Pneumatic suspension system (no springs, dampers or swaybars) which worked together with 4 wheel steering to give the barge surprising ability in the corners, whilst not compromising the ride quality in any way. How could I replace such a thing with a Mitsubishi!

I found myself looking at Legnums for sale online, just out of interest rather that actually intending to buy one, but the more I saw - the more I wanted one. I have never owned a car with rear doors, let alone one that was a stationwagon. The concept that I could go to Bunnings and fit almost anything in (or on) the car and still have the ability that comes with AYC and a pair of turbos for the drive home was astounding. I joined OZVR4 and read up on these mysterious beasts, further fueling my desires. I read of ECU reflashes, Brembo brake upgrades, Auto v Manual pros and cons, Automatic wavespring failures (at great length) and realised that there was a thriving community of owners who loved their VR4s, as well as plenty who were working to improve them. This was a good sign.

I don't know the exact moment when I actually commited to acquiring one, but before I knew it I had sold two of my other Celicas (ST204 and ST162). This was not enough for what I was originally budgeting, and I had intended to wait until I sold the ST165 before I bought a VR4, but I stumbled upon one that fit the bill, and didn't break the bank. So I bit the bullet, and here it is:

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It's a 1999, ~130,000Km, Type S, Auto

Non-Factory items include:
-Dolphin Front Grill (Don't like at all really - PM me if you have a stock FL Pearl White grille for sale (in SA preferably))
-Dolphin Rear Spoiler (starting to grow in me, but still not a huge fan of the huge wing - PM me if you have a stock one)
-Slotted rotors all round
-Braided front brake lines
-Some sort of aftermarket brake pads - they are white in colour, any ideas what they might be? I will pull them out one day and look.
-Stainless lines from turbo outlets to intercooler, and intercooler to throttle body
-HID low beams
-APEXI Air Filter (must go, need facory airbox - PM me if you have one in SA or if you want said APEXI filter)
-Blitz SBC id Boost Controller (will go when I am ready for a tune)
-Viper Alarm
-KYB suspension, unsure of the details but the struts have KYB embossed in them. Struts are yellow, with purple springs. They ride quite well, but seem to be lower and stiffer than stock. Anyone have any idea of exactly what these are likely to be? They are not height adjustable like Bilsteins.
-Stainless front pipe from both turbos, no idea on brand or if hand made. 3", pipes from each turbo are smaller.
-3" exhaust from front pipe back, rear muffler a Fujitsubo - and I would guess the whole system is as it seems to have come as one unit, but I could be wrong. Sounds really nice and is really quiet! Double win :)
-Roof Racks, but they don't come off as there is no key - any ideas besides a locksmith?


I haven't put too many K's on it yet, but I am very happy so far. It makes a lovely noise as the turbos come on boost, and the automatic gearbox is fantastic. The interior is surprisingly comfortable, the only annoyance is a squeak in the back that seems to be coming from the cargo blind. I really don't understany why anyone buys any other wagon!

The short term plans for it are to fit a trans cooler - ASAP, then give it a service (oil, filter, coolant, trans flush, AYC flush, transfer case oil, rear diff oil, brake fluid) and replace the front lower control arms (as a precautionary measure mostly). Long term, I want to install COP, an evo BOV, 3 port Solonoid, better (but still black) intercooler and have it tuned to extend its abilities.


I AM LOOKING FOR SOME DIN STEREO MOUNTS AS THIS CAR CAME WITHOUT THEM AND THE STEREO IS JUST SITTING THERE, PLEASE LET ME KNOW IF YOU HAVE SOME THAT I CAN BUY :)


Also, these stickers are on my rear window. What the hell are they? Its been bugging me for days. Note the "No." on each sticker with a different number.
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Thankyou to the many members of OZVR4 who have, without realising, inspired me to break free from the homogenous cars of my past - and given much of their time an efforts to publish what they have learned, so that others like me can benefit from their experience.
 

uzz320

Leaving Skid Marks
Location
SA
First Name
Martin
Drive
99 Legnum
I will get a pic tomorrow :) If you think it was reasonably priced then you will never guess what I payed for it - I am somewhat of a good negotiator...
 

mookers

puri puri
Location
Frankston, Melbourne, VIC
First Name
Derek
Drive
CL9 Accord Euro Lux, GE Jazz VTi, Evil Supervillain Chair, Homemade Portable Square Drumkit
Welcome to the forum Martin. Nice intro :) Round these parts we like people who can string a sentence together!

The "G" stickers on the rear window are a good thing, it means your car has had its recalls addressed. I've never seen more than three stickers on a car, but I think there is a link somewhere on the forum that will take you to a page where you can find out about your specific car.

edit: I think this is it: http://ozvr4.com/forums/showthread.php?9524-Recall-check-using-chassis-number

And Paulie should be along with his template of links soon.
 

VR4STHOZ

Leaving Skid Marks
Location
SA
First Name
shane
Drive
1999 Legnum Type-S
Lol.. hi martin... i still have an st165 gt4 in my shed :) and now the leggy is my daily :)
I also didnt see myself going non toyota but i drove the leggy and that was it... couldnt say no...
Still miss driving the 165 though. The missus has been driving it lately and we will be letting it go after xmas.. will be sad to see it go... but the leggy will fit the gap.. quite easily.


Sent from my S3, While bored at work.
 

Black_Ice

1 AYC Bar
Location
Newy, NSW
First Name
Aamir
Drive
WRX
Welcome mate..you could'nt have picked a better city to buy a VR4 in..you have Jon who is the resident VR4 specialist mechanic and Adam (Eyecandy) who does the most awesome details...the only person you are missing is Steve (TME_Steve) who should be down in SA some time next year to tune the VR4's..one of the best mods I had done for my car was the tune so dont miss the opportunity when he comes down..

I like the dolphin wing..i'm surprised no one wants it!!

I'm not sure if you have the wave spring mod done to your gearbox but if you havent thats something i'd be saving up for cause its not cheap and highly recommended...
 

Interloper

Leaving Skid Marks
Premium Member
Location
Tas
First Name
Andrew
Drive
2000 Legnum S Man, NX Paj, CBR1000RRSP2, CRF450
welcome Martin hope to see you on the road sometime!
 

Poita

1 AYC Bar
Location
SA
First Name
Peter
Drive
Legnum
Welcome and very nice car. Not sure I like the wing, but it would grow on me... Definitely need to get those roof racks off LOL
 

uzz320

Leaving Skid Marks
Location
SA
First Name
Martin
Drive
99 Legnum

uzz320

Leaving Skid Marks
Location
SA
First Name
Martin
Drive
99 Legnum
Lol.. hi martin... i still have an st165 gt4 in my shed :) and now the leggy is my daily :)
I also didnt see myself going non toyota but i drove the leggy and that was it... couldnt say no...
Still miss driving the 165 though. The missus has been driving it lately and we will be letting it go after xmas.. will be sad to see it go... but the leggy will fit the gap.. quite easily.

I still have mine, but it is about to go up for sale - it's really hard to put a value on them as there aren't many that come up so there are no reference points. What are you looking to sell it for out of interest? Mines had a recently rebuilt motor, ST205 gearbox w/ new clutch and all new suspension bushes and I was thinking $3500 would be realistic. You know, i've actually only ever seen one other one with my own eyes - there can't be many around these days.
 

uzz320

Leaving Skid Marks
Location
SA
First Name
Martin
Drive
99 Legnum
Welcome mate..you could'nt have picked a better city to buy a VR4 in..you have Jon who is the resident VR4 specialist mechanic and Adam (Eyecandy) who does the most awesome details...the only person you are missing is Steve (TME_Steve) who should be down in SA some time next year to tune the VR4's..one of the best mods I had done for my car was the tune so dont miss the opportunity when he comes down..

I like the dolphin wing..i'm surprised no one wants it!!

I'm not sure if you have the wave spring mod done to your gearbox but if you havent thats something i'd be saving up for cause its not cheap and highly recommended...

I'm not sure if its had the wavespring done either, but it did have the torque converter seal done a few months back - a sensible person would have had it done at the same time, but I can't see how I would be able to tell (short of pulling it apart and replacing it anyway...)

The wing is one of those things that some love and some hate, I will either change it or learn to love it I suppose :)
 

VR4STHOZ

Leaving Skid Marks
Location
SA
First Name
shane
Drive
1999 Legnum Type-S
I still have mine, but it is about to go up for sale - it's really hard to put a value on them as there aren't many that come up so there are no reference points. What are you looking to sell it for out of interest? Mines had a recently rebuilt motor, ST205 gearbox w/ new clutch and all new suspension bushes and I was thinking $3500 would be realistic. You know, i've actually only ever seen one other one with my own eyes - there can't be many around these days.

Isnt many at all... and 3.5k is underselling it man.. unless its clapped out.. mines stock.. 190k on the bidy with 65 thou on the engine,no rust,sunroof,koni adjustables(all legal) inside is mint except for the drivers seat has a crack in it... im looking at 5.5k ish for mine.. a few have sold in nsw for around the 6-7 mark.. i have owned 2 and the 1st one i had was pissing out oil and still got 3.5k for it. They are a fun car just a bitch because of the rarity.

Sent from my S3, While bored at work.
 

uzz320

Leaving Skid Marks
Location
SA
First Name
Martin
Drive
99 Legnum
Isnt many at all... and 3.5k is underselling it man.. unless its clapped out.. mines stock.. 190k on the bidy with 65 thou on the engine,no rust,sunroof,koni adjustables(all legal) inside is mint except for the drivers seat has a crack in it... im looking at 5.5k ish for mine.. a few have sold in nsw for around the 6-7 mark.. i have owned 2 and the 1st one i had was pissing out oil and still got 3.5k for it. They are a fun car just a bitch because of the rarity.

Mine is mechanically great, but the paint and interior are pretty worn. It did have Koni's on it but I am selling them seperately. It also had upgraded brakes (slotted rotors, bigger calipers and EBC yellowstuff pads which were a great improvement - no more fade at mallala!) 155,000 ish on both chassis and motor - but about 3000Km since rebuild and new gearbox. Selbys adjustable swaybar, several sets of wheels and tyres with rally, road and track tyres etc. It was a very competent car for light competition use, and would make a great first car if you were allowed to have a turbo these days. I still have quite a few bits to sell off so that compensates for the $3.5k price somewhat, but I do want it to sell quickly. It recently won a hillclimb against my mate at Colingrove, AKA the happiest day of my life :). He drives a 09 (I think) Liberty GT Spec B STI, and the old girl won by .02 seconds haha.

On a side note, when did you sell your first one? This one was pissing out oil when I bought it - it wasn't from you was it?
 

VR4STHOZ

Leaving Skid Marks
Location
SA
First Name
shane
Drive
1999 Legnum Type-S
I sold it about 3 years ago.. grey one.. 3" exhaust with massive magnaflow rear cannon.. sounded nasty.. i think the whole oil leak thing is normal for them.. from the base of the dipstick holder.

Sent from my S3, While bored at work.
 
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