Photos of the differences between genuine Mitsubishi oil filters MD356000 and MD136466

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  1. eyeballprawn

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    I went shopping for a genuine oil filter and decided to buy both for comparison.

    In the Parts Numbers Guide thread here on the forum it lists MD356000 and MD136466 as being suitable for our cars, and there was a previous note that said "longer narrower one is better" (now removed). However it turns out that they are both exactly the same external dimensions, the major difference being one is painted in a matt finish and the other gloss!

    Internally is where they differ.

    The MD356000 is made by Toro, and looks like your typical aftermarket filter design.

    The MD136466 is is the filter that shows up first in the list in ASA. It is made by Nippon Denso and has quite a different internal construction - it looks like the filter media is foam which is supported on a plastic slotted frame. And the bypass valve looks to either be very weak or non-existent. The dots you see on the rubber seal are a kind of solid, perhaps silicone, lubricant. (Whereas the MD356000 just had a thin film of oil on its seal.)

    There is also a third filter listed in ASA - MD322508 but it is specified for EUROPE USE ONLY.

    I will get some measurements later, but here are the pics.

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    So which one are you putting on your car?
     
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    Knowing Dylan, he'll use both so he can compare them. Somehow he'll manage to control, or compensate for, the differences in driving conditions, trip durations, engine load, kilometres travelled and ambient temperature over the duration of two entire service intervals. He'll dissect the used oil filters and measure the trapped particles with an electron microscope, plot the data using a fourth-order differential function to fit the curve, and present the results in six dimensions.

    Unfortunately however, he will be unable to upload any of the graphs due to a forum image linking problem. :p
     
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    I'm going to try the MD136466 first, as it looks different from most other aftermarket filters I've tried. And I'll be using Motul 8100 X-Cess oil which I previously bought and have had sitting around. I had given some thought to going with a different oil after I use up the Motul, but it looks like I'll have to grab some more for when I run the other filter so I can be sure it's a fair comparison. After that then I'll feed the punch cards from the Arduino datalogger into the photoelectric decombobulator, and if all goes well according to Bernoulli's principle, then we should be able to garner any resulting causatum to the hydraulic lash adjusters' modus operandi, yo.
     
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    You forgot to mention the floccinaucinihilipilificator.
     
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    Wow, even I had a nerd-gasm over all those funky term's and names.
     
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    Dylan.

    After all the techo-geekery research is done, just tell us which one we should be using ;)
     
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    I've just taken an MD136466 off my car at the last oil change. Your welcome to tear it apart and check out the internals.
     
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    Finished with the MD136466 and am currently testing the MD356000.
     
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    the 466 is what I use on Evo and Legnum. It is great for ground clearance.
     
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    Ah well, see you in July 2012 for the update!
     
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    Conclusion... I went back to using Ryco :)
     
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    True to your word!

    Now about those photos and x-rays/cut-away dissections of the Ryco filters...
     
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    Hi Dylan, I need 2 pc of MD356000. Do you have them for sale mate?
     

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