I'm pretty new, and I acknowledge other vr4 drivers also jumped on this forum the day I got it. But I do understand what you mean. Hopefully we get at least half the vr4s on the 12th then.Maybe 25 all up? It's hard to say. A lot of the original owners who were active in the scene moved onto evos and the such... And the new owners arnt active in any scene (or acknowledge other vr4 owners out and about).