I need help from someone with spray painting experience please

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The stuff you are using in the spray cans will be acrylic lacquer. It contains a high level of thinners/reducer. If you spray it too soon after the the previous coat it can react with and wrinkle up the paint. Also wait until the warmest and driest day possible to do the job, really hard at this time of year I know.

You need to wait for each coat to 'flash off' before painting the next one, which is the solvents evaporating from it. Usually this is in the range of 5 to 10 minutes, depending on temperature etc. This time of year, in an unheated garage, you may need to allow longer. Your paint may have recommendations, or ask your paint shop if buying from a specialist. Generally the paint will look hazy and go dull once it has flashed off.

With metallic base coats you shouldn't sand them for reasons I mentioned in the post above, not even before you putting the clear on. The only time you sand are when preparing the surface, the primer before base coating and if necessary after the clear has dried for a couple of days you can flat sand & buff any orange peel out.

There is one exception though - you can sand your last base coat with 800 grit if you have done a particularly crappy job and want to smooth it out BUT you will need to put another mist of base coat over it to fix up all the metallic flecks that you have now sanded the tops off! The problem with this is that you may also risk damaging the nice blend you just did.

When you move on to do the clear, you should let your final base coat flash off and dry for a bit longer. Acrylic should be dry enough after 1 hour on a warm day. If you wait too long then there is more chance for dust, bugs and crap to get on the base coat surface - which will be a major issue with your white car. If you do get junk in the paint along the way, resist the temptation to get it out. Most imperfections can sanded out once the clear has fully dried in a couple of days time. Acrylic paint is very forgiving.

You will be aiming to lay your clear down a little bit wetter than the base coat to help smooth it out. The higher concentration of thinners could react with the previous base coats if painted too soon - so don't drench it on, but don't just mist it either. You want solid, even coverage of the clear over the main area of repair.

Also, if you are having trouble finding prepsol it's commonly sold as wax & grease remover in paint shops. It's the same stuff, just that prepsol is actually a brand name.
 

dwarfmarine

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Cameron
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Previous: Black PFL Legnum
Current: TD5 Land Rover Disco
Hey guys.

Managed to remove my rear wing without breaking it as ive been planning onhaving it resprayed/ having a go at re-spraying it as the clearcoat is absolutely knackered (on the top of the bootlid as well)


I've read the guide to 'spray painting with Aerosols' on here and watched a few tutorials and such but i was wondering if anyone here is in the trade or has done a bit of re-spraying themselves?
I'll be using a compressor and spray gun, so ill have to thin the paint myself.
paint will be sourced from Supercheap (they actually have Pyrness Black on their new tinting system! and i have a mate that works there so i should get a good deal)

from what ive read-

sand back panel using 600
prepsol
2-3 coats of primer, sand with 600
prepsol
3-4 coats of colour (unsure if i have to sand here or not- apprently you dont sand metallic colours?)
clearcoat 3-4 coats

leave 24 hrs and buff


Anyone got any extra tips, or where i've gone wrong in my 'basic' run through?
Also, do i use a black or standard grey primer? or does it not matter?

Any idea roughly how much much un-thinned paint ill need for such a relatively small area?


Cheers!
Cameron
 

Interloper

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Andrew
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2000 Legnum S Man, NX Paj, CBR1000RRSP2, CRF450
the methodology looks fine to me but I'm no expert....have resprayed a few things though
primer color wont matter
dont sand the metallic coat
spray the first coat of metallic quite dry so the metallic fleck stands up, can spray extra coats if needed especially of clear....
can sand clear after a couple of coats for fine finish
you wont need much paint 500ml would be stacks
 

GMan

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Jet
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2000 Mitsubishi Galant VR-4
Ah, I haven't seen this thread yet -- will have a good read of it tonight to find out what I need to do. Been wanting to repaint some scratches on my front bumper, but was always too scared to try. If it can save me a few hundred bucks at the panel shop...
 

dwarfmarine

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Location
Windsor, NSW
First Name
Cameron
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Previous: Black PFL Legnum
Current: TD5 Land Rover Disco
Thanks for merging my thread whoever did!
Will have a good read through this thread on my break at work!

But yeah, popped into my local auto shop (AutoPro) who are paint dudes and said my method was pretty much right on,
Only thing they added was for a metallic, sand the primer with 1200 to get a really nice surface to bind to.
Then 2000 the final clear coat before buffing

Other than that they have me little tips like 'cross thatching' the colour spray pattern to get the metallic to sit at different angles and not get dark spots,
And to spray at 32-34psi to avoid air bubbles.
 
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