6A13TT Engine rebuild
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Why are you not doing the easy break in?
Theres a very small window to get the seals to seal really well -the first 32km!
Theres a very small window to get the seals to seal really well -the first 32km!
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32km, really so where TF did that number come from???
Which seals are you talking about?
I use a completely different run in to most people, this is essentially what i do. Has worked very well for my last 2 engines & it will be the same with this one.
I've been doing this for years, first time back in 2005.
Found this website last year...
http://www.mototuneusa.com/break_in_secrets.htm
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32km is 20 miles, as written in that link you listed.
"The Problem With "Easy Break In" ...
The honed crosshatch pattern in the cylinder bore acts like a file to allow the rings to wear. The rings quickly wear down the "peaks" of this roughness, regardless of how hard the engine is run.
There's a very small window of opportunity to get the rings to seal really well ... the first 20 miles !!
"The Problem With "Easy Break In" ...
The honed crosshatch pattern in the cylinder bore acts like a file to allow the rings to wear. The rings quickly wear down the "peaks" of this roughness, regardless of how hard the engine is run.
There's a very small window of opportunity to get the rings to seal really well ... the first 20 miles !!
If the rings aren't forced against the walls soon enough, they'll use up the roughness before they fully seat. Once that happens there is no solution but to re hone the cylinders, install new rings and start over again.
Fortunately, most new sportbike owners can't resist the urge to "open it up" once or twice,
which is why more engines don't have this problem !!
An additional factor that you may not have realized, is that the person at the dealership who set up your bike probably blasted your brand new bike pretty hard on the "test run". So, without realizing it, that adrenaline crazed set - up mechanic actually did you a huge favor !!"
Fortunately, most new sportbike owners can't resist the urge to "open it up" once or twice,
which is why more engines don't have this problem !!
An additional factor that you may not have realized, is that the person at the dealership who set up your bike probably blasted your brand new bike pretty hard on the "test run". So, without realizing it, that adrenaline crazed set - up mechanic actually did you a huge favor !!"
smohekey
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Have to agree.. although I think maybe shane meant easy as in quick and not 'easy on the engine'.
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Driving past a servo today, couldn't resist so i pulled in an filled it up. 357km 39 litres 9.1km/L or 10.98L/100km I think that's a pretty decent effort first up considering it've been driving it hard during run in.
Dropping the oil and cutting open the filter tomorrow.
Dropping the oil and cutting open the filter tomorrow.
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Dropped the oil this arvo. Cut the filter open............ALL GOOD!!!
So now got a semi sythetic. Be interesting to see this tanks economy. My wife will be driving it from tomorrow so we'll see how it goes.
I've also taken the ignition back to factory on the Haltech. I'll keep it at 6psi for another 1000km then i'll take it in to get the tune touched up and wind the boost back to 12psi.
Otherwise, clutch is great!
Engine has a slight vibration from 1600-1800rpm that clearly the harder engine mounts trasnfer to the cockpit whereas the factory mounts absorbed but other than that, all is going very nicely
Hey anyone know where i can get new tie rod ends??? Took it for a wheel alignment this arvo and the drivers one is just crap, passenger is ok but i'll change it as well
Cheers
So now got a semi sythetic. Be interesting to see this tanks economy. My wife will be driving it from tomorrow so we'll see how it goes.
I've also taken the ignition back to factory on the Haltech. I'll keep it at 6psi for another 1000km then i'll take it in to get the tune touched up and wind the boost back to 12psi.
Otherwise, clutch is great!
Engine has a slight vibration from 1600-1800rpm that clearly the harder engine mounts trasnfer to the cockpit whereas the factory mounts absorbed but other than that, all is going very nicely
Hey anyone know where i can get new tie rod ends??? Took it for a wheel alignment this arvo and the drivers one is just crap, passenger is ok but i'll change it as well
Cheers
timmae2006
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My clutch is superb too!!! I got my rod ends from camskill although there is mention on here about repco stocking them
godzilla
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- 1/19 2002 FL Legnum Type 'S' Manual in Black with Suede Recaro's!
I got THIS kit personally but if you just want the tie rod ends then the Roadsafe brand, part No. TE3612R will do the job. They are available from Repco etc, as Tim referred to, for around $15/pr
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Bad wording on my part, i mean rack ends- anyone have any idea??:sad:
On another note, I took the ignition advance i had in the Haltech out this morning until i could get to my tuners to touch it up correctly. Had nothing but trouble on the way to work with the engine light coming on and the same old problem the interceptor used to have..... so called my tuner and he made room for me so down i went.
Filled the car up on the way down, returned 10km/L
In the end, the problem is fixed, changed 2 settings and fixed it instantly.
Now on to the tune. Did it at wastegate pressure first which is the green lines below.
The Red line is the current tune and pink was the original tune in Dec 2008.
Nice power curves now. So the end, result is still the same power/torque but on 1psi less. There is plenty more available but I wasn't interested in running more boost. The car has plenty of go.
What was interesting was when we first reconnected the boost controller- the first run was aborted as it was running 15psi. We saw 175kW at ~4300, so if it kept that gain from 12psi, would have seen close to 200kW. not bad for 15psi
Anyway, here are the graphs.
On another note, I took the ignition advance i had in the Haltech out this morning until i could get to my tuners to touch it up correctly. Had nothing but trouble on the way to work with the engine light coming on and the same old problem the interceptor used to have..... so called my tuner and he made room for me so down i went.
Filled the car up on the way down, returned 10km/L
In the end, the problem is fixed, changed 2 settings and fixed it instantly.
Now on to the tune. Did it at wastegate pressure first which is the green lines below.
The Red line is the current tune and pink was the original tune in Dec 2008.
Nice power curves now. So the end, result is still the same power/torque but on 1psi less. There is plenty more available but I wasn't interested in running more boost. The car has plenty of go.
What was interesting was when we first reconnected the boost controller- the first run was aborted as it was running 15psi. We saw 175kW at ~4300, so if it kept that gain from 12psi, would have seen close to 200kW. not bad for 15psi
Anyway, here are the graphs.
Mel-D
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- 2012 Ford Focus ST Manual,Tangerine. Evo 6 Blue manual.Had 2004 XR6 Falcon M11 Auto,Yellow GT stripes. 1999 Legnum Manual,White
Here are the ones Pete, and a few others have got, took about a week to deliver
http://shop.ebay.com.au/i.html?_nkw...ackends&_osacat=0&_trksid=p3286.c0.m270.l1313
http://shop.ebay.com.au/i.html?_nkw...ackends&_osacat=0&_trksid=p3286.c0.m270.l1313
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godzilla
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- Location
- QLD / Tweed Coast
- First Name
- Trevor
- Drive
- 1/19 2002 FL Legnum Type 'S' Manual in Black with Suede Recaro's!
The kit i showed you was what i got as my inner tie rods or rack ends were rooted. Go for that one imo.
godzilla
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- Location
- QLD / Tweed Coast
- First Name
- Trevor
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- 1/19 2002 FL Legnum Type 'S' Manual in Black with Suede Recaro's!
thanks, Mel, I'm off to the US next saturday, i'll pick them up while there!!
Beaten to it by Mel.
Another note - man you get around! Spose that's what pilots do.
godzilla
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- Location
- QLD / Tweed Coast
- First Name
- Trevor
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- 1/19 2002 FL Legnum Type 'S' Manual in Black with Suede Recaro's!
Dis-honourable discharge?
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he he of course:lol:
bradc
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Interesting, from 6000 to 7000rpm your boost levels are the same and you make a lot more power. Before 6000rpm you make less boost now but about the same amount of power.
